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Author Topic: PVR/HTPC built into a classic 1952 Philco TV console/cabinet mod!  (Read 63870 times)
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« on: March 10, 2006, 11:45:05 AM »

(please see http://www.flickr.com/groups/buildyourownpvr/discuss/72057594080722774/  for the pics )

I like modern electronics, but don't much care for the newfangled
plastic cabinets they come in.  I started this project out with a 1952
Philco TV console that I picked up for $40 at an estate sale.  The
finish is original and old, but the wood is absolutely gorgeous.  This
pic shows it in as-found condition.


After hogging out all of the old electronics, doors, and shelves, I
found that the opening just fit a Sharp Aquos 32" lcd.  I picked
up last year's model, which didn't have (factory) removable speakers,
for $1500.


I have limited access to tools right now, so I used what was
available--mostly scrap wood from some cabinets we threw out--to make
the internal shelf and mounting point for the TV.  Check out all the
space inside!  Perfect for what I had in mind!



Easily the scariest thing I've willingly done, ever: pulling a
brand-spanking new Aquos apart so I could install it in the Philco
cabinet.  Fortunately, it came off without a hitch and the (ahem)
mounting system fit perfectly.


The install was fairly straightforward and at this point, I had a
widescreen lcd in my 50+ year old cabinet, wired for cable.  The IR
for the TV sits on the shelf just below the TV.  The cable box sits
behind the grille on the left.  There's a ton of space in
there...Hmmmm, might have to ask santa for a game console. wink



Then I picked up the computer hardware: 250G HDD, AMD 64 3000+, ATI
Radeon 9550, 1G memory, D-link wireless router and adapter, Gyration
wireless mouse and keyboard, a BigWater SE CPU/GPU cooling system,
and, finally, a WinPVR-150MCE (HURRAY for pcalchemy.com!).



True haxors should be very impressed with my use of lumber supports
and styrofoam packing materials as insulators/spacers for the mobo.
All in all, there's a ton of space, the system is cool and quiet (20db
@ 37*C scoring Ludicrous Kills on UT2k4 Onslaught), and everything
works.  The HDD and DVD+-RW... are mounted up and out of the way now,
unlike in the pic.  I was having trouble with WinXP not loading
correctly, which is why I was experimenting with FAT32 in this pic.
It finally loaded and I converted it to NTFS in the process.  IR for
the remote goes right through the black speaker cloth I put behind the
grille.  I used the same speaker cloth for the TV bezel; hot glue,
styrofoam, and brazing rod make up the frame for it.  You wouldn't
know it to look at it.



This is how it looks inside now, with the HDD & DVD unit mounted
up on the bottom-side of the TV shelf.  Liquid cooling is truly
awesome and the Gyration mouse is perfect for this sort of
application, though its not particularly good for gaming.



Here it is, done.  Next up is to lose the cheapo home theater system.
Then I'll take the old cabinet doors and mount them such that they
close to cover the LCD, but slide completely inside between the TV and
the cabinet.  That's next year's project.  Now, where's my remote?




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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2006, 11:48:36 AM »

Love the retro TV mod  thumbs up good job
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2006, 12:38:58 PM »

Looks good!! Great fit.
You may only be able to recieve 3 channels because the rest are digital and you may need a STB from your cable company.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2006, 01:10:21 PM »

That's awesome!  thumbs up good job

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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2006, 01:31:57 PM »

Very creative. Again, I wish I had the patience for this. Oh yeah, and the skill.  Wink

BTW...is that dog a Shiba Inu? That's the dog I'm planning on getting.
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2006, 03:20:55 AM »

I went straight to a copy of Sagetv (www.sage.tv) with my 150MCE and it's been a champ ever since.  Not sure if the drivers will fix it for you, but good luck.  I agree, the built in software totally blows.

It's looking quite swanky man!  Good job smiley

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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2006, 03:40:28 AM »

Why not use the original drawer covers to make a 'door' so you can completely hides the LCD when not in use?
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2006, 06:20:01 AM »

I like.  How much? Grin
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2006, 08:18:32 AM »

Nice, but is that FAT I see you're formatting in? NTFS is the way to go with PVRs, no more 4GB size limit.
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2006, 12:10:36 PM »

He is formatting in FAT23, which supports 250GB no issue.  If he's using windows, yeah maybe NTFS would be better.  If hes using linux, I would hope hed format using ext3.  Maybe the fat32 will be a partition he wants linux to write to.
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2006, 12:21:49 PM »

I am envious! Excellent project.
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2006, 02:31:27 PM »

He is formatting in FAT23, which supports 250GB no issue.  If he's using windows, yeah maybe NTFS would be better.  If hes using linux, I would hope hed format using ext3.  Maybe the fat32 will be a partition he wants linux to write to.
FAT32 is nearly as bad with today's large disks as FAT16 was with large drives in its day. There are still 4GB file limits inherent in FAT which a huge no-no as a recorded TV can easily hit 4GB in one file and recorded HDTV is 8-9GB for one hour.
NTFS is a much better file system, it is designed to repair itself easily, and doesn't have file allocation tables that scale poorly in the way FAT does.
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2006, 07:44:44 PM »

this project was posted on the make blog!

When the photobucket bandwith gets re-allocated I'll attach the photo's to the forum (regg'd users can post pics/files to the forum) or host them locally...

rampy thumbs up good job
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2006, 12:07:02 PM »

Rampy, thanks.  I'm a n00b poster here. 

BTW...is that dog a Shiba Inu?
Yes, more or less, and a real Japanese import model, too.  13 years old and still running strong.  Gotta love mutts.

Why not use the original drawer covers to make a 'door' so you can completely hides the LCD when not in use?
Dude, I just got the damned thing running.  Gimme time. You're worse than the missus. lol

As to the FAT32/NTFS debate--don't sweat it, guys.  I was having trouble getting my system up and running--WinXP thought it was an upgrade version and I was trying anything and everything to get it to load.  It finally did and I swapped it to NTFS.

I also downloaded all of the drivers from WinTV and it works perfectly now.  Now I just need to read the FSM and learn how to get the computer to turn itself on (Scheduled Tasks, I assume), record a program, then turn itself off (this seems to be the sticky point.)

Cheers
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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2006, 05:21:45 PM »

Rampy, I loaded the whole shebang with more pix into http://www.flickr.com/groups/buildyourownpvr/discuss/72057594080722774/

Unfortunately, I can't modify my original guest post.  (rampy note: but I can  Wink and did  thumbs up good job )
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